Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:22:39 -0700
From: weavermt@YAHOO.COM (Tim Weaver)
Subject: Re: guns at FBI protest
To: AZRKBA@asu.edu


Their support for civil liberties is hypocritical.  My question is: if
they hold a public protest in a public location, how can they force
someone, who is armed who showed up as an individual in support of the
protest, to leave?

The fact they oppose violence in ANY situation is NOT a typo. Shannon,
these people believe that violence on the part of a rape victim during the
comission of that crime. In other words, they support the "just try and
relax and it will be over soon."

They are not your friends.  Nor the friend of those who support liberty.

Wear your gun proudly.

Tim

--- Steve Flynn <flyrep@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>

>  Date:Sun, 16 Jun 2002 23:29:21 -0700Subject:Re: the protest

> From:"Kyrsten Sinema" <ksinema@cox.net> | Block Address  | Add to

> Address BookTo:"Steve Flynn" <flyrep@yahoo.com> [input]   [input]

>

> Shannon,

>

> Thanks for your email.  Some members of the AAPJ events committee met

> today, and there were several people concerned about the presence of

> weapons at AAPJ-sponsored events.  After much discussion, the group

> agreed that because we did not share our complete event guidelines with

> other groups when advertising the event and asking for co-sponsors, we

> were responsible for at least a portion of the confrontation (which I

> was not aware of until later).  In the future, our group will be sharing

> our guidelines when advertising events, and asking any who wish to

> participate to adhere to those guidelines.  I'm not sure how familiar

> you are with the Arizona Alliance for Peaceful Justice, but we are a

> peaceful justice group opposed to the use of violence and weapons in all

> situations.  You might know that we believe in world disarmament.  So

> one of our guidelines is that there are no weapons, concealed or

> otherwise, at our events.  Other guidelines include no destruction of

> property, use of violence or force, or disres

>

> I'm glad that you enjoyed the protest, and I hope that you'll consider

> participating with us again in the future, knowing that our guidelines

> are different than your personal beliefs.  I guess the way that I think

> of it is this -- when AAPJ attended May Day (sponsored by the Phoenix

> Anarchist Coalition), we knew that their guidelines differ from ours.

> They are okay with weapons and property destruction in some instances,

> and so those of us who chose to attend the event knew that it would be

> inappropriate to ask someone to not destroy property or to carry a

> weapon.  It was their event, and they set the guidelines.  As invited

> guests, we respected that and participated in a way that respected their

> guidelines.  Personally, I was okay with that because, if I had felt

> uncomfortable with their guidelines or felt that I couldn't follow them,

> I would have chosen not to attend the event.  Similarly, if I were

> interested in attending an event sponsored by the Gunowners of America,

> I would have no right to state my

>

> Anyway, it was a good event overall, and I'm glad that there are so many

> people in Phoenix who want to protect our civil liberties enough to

> stand outside in the crowded heat for an hour.  Although we are all

> different in many ways, we have respect for civil liberties in common,

> and that is a very good thing!

>

> Sincerely,

> Kyrsten

>




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